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    What will get you to use your phone more?

    For for starters a sensor larger than 1/2.3", may a min of 1/2" BSI stacked(if possible) sensor paired with an f1.8 or if size isn’t a concern f1.4 lens. Optimally a 2/3"(or 1/1.7") sensor BSI stacked(if possible) sensor paired with a f1.8 or even f2 lens. Also, a lack of AA filter, and Canon, or Olympus jpeg wouldn’t hurt.
    I’m sure someone will say FF, APS-C or even m4/3 sensor, but would make the phone pretty thick, specially with a lens. Just look Panasonic CM1, with it’s 1in sensor. If they can figure out out to give us a 1in sensor and f2.8 lens at thickness that isn’t too big, then by all means someone should(Goolge if you are reading please give us a phone with a sensor close to 1in than 1/3" please).

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    What focal length though? What about size and cost? Cause you aren’t thinking like a consumer or marketing person, but a tech nerd.

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    I agree at least a 1" sensor combined with a better lens would go a long way. For me, lenses need to be far wider than they are now. My Note 4 has a field of view that’s barely useful for anything but portraits, and I’ve seen the comparisons and I know it’s actually pretty good relative to other phones. Phone manufacturers have historically gone with middle of the road "normal" equivalent lenses, but in most situations that is not the most useful type of lens.
    Obviously no single fixed lens is going to be able to cover every situation, but the situations I typically take photos of – for example vacations where I’m trying to get a landscape, a cityscape, a tall building, an airplane, or a cruise ship into a single photo, a wide-angle lens is necessary. This is probably my biggest beef with my current phone. Maybe someday we’ll get to a point when phones have three lenses – a wide angle, a normal and a telephoto. That would be pretty amazing.
    Better controls too. This is probably a really difficult problem to solve and I don’t know what can be done, but personally I find turning on my phone, swiping up to start the camera, then finding that one spot on the screen to click the shutter is basically impossible unless I can really plan ahead. I want one button that I can rest my finger on and just snap whenever I need to. Maybe all that’s needed is a dedicated shutter button. I don’t think that would be that hard.

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    Phones use to have a dedicated shutter button, but somewhere along the line simplicity one out. I dunno about the Note 4, but with my Nexus 6 and 6P, I can double push the power button to open the camera up and use the volume rocker to shoot with.
    How much wider do you want the lens to be, because most phones are in the 28mm-32mm focal length range, with LG offering a wider focal length on the second camera(which is 8mp and I think smaller sensor than the main camera) on the G5 and V20.

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    Well, the problem is that the 16:9 aspect ratio effectively makes the overall lens field of view narrower. (Lenses are round and pictures have two dimensions, not just width but also height.) It’s wasting a lot of the lens on the top and bottom. With two cameras of the same focal length, one 3:2 and the other 16:9, the 3:2 one will capture more on the top and bottom – you’ll get more in the picture. Cropping it down to 16:9 is throwing away that data. I’m used to shooting 3:2 and recently 4:3 (I’ve switched to Four Thirds) and I instinctively find that I’m missing that picture data, so I want the lens to be wider to get it back. That would solve the problem for me, but then so would a "real" 3:2 (or 4:3) mode while keeping the lens as it is.
    My phone has a 31mm equivalent lens also, which is already a few mm short of ideal even at 3:2 or 4:3. So when combined with a 16:9 aspect ratio, it feels very constricting.
    I understand that phones have 16:9 screens and that’s why they take photos in 16:9. But every phone I know of also has other modes if you select them. I don’t know how other phones handle this but when I switch to 4:3 on my phone (it has no 3:2), it just crops the sides. My guess is this is because the sensor itself is 16:9. So the second way to solve this would be to make the sensors 3:2 or 4:3 and then crop to 16:9 instead of the other way around. That way you wouldn’t lose anything when shooting 16:9 vs. what’s happening now, but you’d gain field of view when in 3:2 or 4:3 mode.
    At the moment, I have a wide angle clip-on lens to give me what I want, but that’s just kind of stupid.
    I’m actually thinking to get a V20 as my next phone, but I wish the wide angle lens used a larger sensor.

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